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While that seems logical, it seems that these days, casinos have become incredibly 'cheap' in their comps, and personally, I could envision them paying little or no comps for these craps games AND having a machine that manipulates the dice in the casino's favor. People still play the 6 to 5 'blackjack' tables, so why not play on a craps machine that pays worse than an actual craps game? As mentioned by someone, some players are just intimidated by some aspect of the actual craps game, so they're more comfortable playing on a machine. Most of my friends, when they're in Vegas, ONLY play slots (or try to play VP with poor or no strategy) because they are afraid to learn and play the table games. I don't understand them because they lose more than I lose on craps or BJ.
Anyway, I haven't tried these craps machines yet because I thought they were rigged somehow, but maybe I'll put in a few bucks next time I'm downtown at Binion's.
It would be great to see some actual stats here. As one forum user said, they have already compiled a decent amount of numbers that slightly favors the pass-line bettor so far.
Yes, there certainly is a benefit to Bubble Craps for people who wish to play craps, at low, low minimums. Personally, I have never understood the desire to play craps for $1. I know I am probably not going to win after an hour of play, but if I do get that positive variance, I would like it to be more than $10. I understand we all have different valuations of what is discretionary funds, and what is affordable, so I am only saying, for myself I would not find $1 craps to be fun.
On a recent trip we were playing the bubble craps machine at Bally's and noticed an older gentleman who was recording the rolls in a little black book. It seemed like he was watching for a pattern. It seemed like he was watching for a pattern. 2 minor changes for Bubbler GPS 1.3.39 Pro First change adds the ability to define the SMTP port for the email option. If your provider needs a port other than 465, you can now specify it. Unlike the “Shoot to Win” Craps machines that you see in Las Vegas, the bubble craps at Wild Wild West operates a little differently. A shooting player is never designated, for example. Instead, a timer starts after each roll, and you’ll have to place your bets before the timer ends.
I think players new to craps find the game less intimidating than the live game. These players also like to play at lower limits.A funny story: my wife had never played craps so I taught her how to play on the bubble craps machine at the Venetian. She was betting $1 pass line only with single odds and proceeded to roll 23 times before a loss!
Good Question.
It is a slot machine. The company says it is, so we must agree with them on that.
On $1200 or above wins, including the original wager, a W2G is issued.
This isn't true. It isn't treated as a slot - the casino manager told me this (at Gold Strike in Jean) as they were paying me my $2200 (without paperwork). I started with $100.I went back recently, and they had totally changed the rules of the game (Max LAY bet was $30). I asked the manager if I still held the record for that machine for the largest payout. He said I still did. My wife then asked if they changed the rules because of me..he kind of hem and hawed and said..'uh..well, uh.no, it was because we felt like it was too confusing for people...'
Whatever..
I think my big payout totally made them change the game rules. (LAY bet max was probably $1000) Well, it worked because I didn't do near as well. I won't go back there anymore. Shoot to Win at Ceasear's has better rules.
It isn't that big of a pay out really - I was kinda surprised it was still the top. I mean, putting $100 on snake eyes would blow it away.
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This isn't true. It isn't treated as a slot - the casino manager told me this (at Gold Strike in Jean) as they were paying me my $2200 (without paperwork). Real win money games. I started with $100.
I think it is $1200 win on any one roll.I hit a $45, 30 to 1 payout (hop 4-4) with $5 on the hard 8
and the machine locked up and they issued me a W2G on the spot before I could continue.
They told me this so I would know to bet less so any one win would be less than $1200 does not get a W2G.
Cant do that any more with max $5 bets
FWIW, the machine does have worse odds in several ways. The odds are worse for don't players compared to table games at every casino I know of having it. Pass line odds are only 2x in many places too. If you buy a 4/10 the machine takes double juice. It takes 5% of your win, not 5% of your bet. The field also only pays double on 12.
That's got nothing to do with whether or not the dice are rigged.
Roulette slots also tend to have lower payouts than live tables. But the wheel is still fair.
Currently it is $3 to $500 and 345X odds.
The Shoot to Win Craps is between the Craps table and the Cage.
The machine has no TITO. All hand pay on every cash out.
When did Gold Strike go to 345x odds? I was there about six weeks ago. Only 2x odds.
Im not surprised the craps machine has no TITO after all this is the casino that says it pays 'real coins' and 'money you can feel' on its electronic sign along the I-15.
Playing $1 vp there on my last visit I cashed out $270 after getting a straight flush.. and I had to wait for a hopper reload. When was the last time you had to wait for a hopper reload? LOL
When did Gold Strike go to 345x odds? I was there about six weeks ago. Only 2x odds.
Im not surprised the craps machine has no TITO after all this is the casino that says it pays 'real coins' and 'money you can feel' on its electronic sign along the I-15.
Playing $1 vp there on my last visit I cashed out $270 after getting a straight flush.. Tetri mania. and I had to wait for a hopper reload. When was the last time you had to wait for a hopper reload? LOL
Shoot to Win uses coins at Gold Strike? I wonder how many other ones are that way. I am surprised they even would have designed it with that capability.
I returned from Vegas last night after playing the Bubble Craps machine at Bally's. I was sometimes putting Place to Lose bets on 4 or 10 and noticed a lost fairly often. So I did an experiment: I put on a Place to Lose on 10 for $5. After losing I added $5 to the bet each time. The machine rolled 10 six times in a row losing me $5, $10, $15, $20, $25, and $30.
This is hard to believe but true -- on the next roll I then switched to putting on Place to Lose on 4, adding $5 to the bet each time. The machine rolled 4 four times straight.
It rolled 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 4, 4, 4, 4 while I had place to loose on each of those rolls
It seems clear to me the machine can roll whatever it calculates is desirable.
When did Gold Strike go to 345x odds? I was there about six weeks ago. Only 2x odds.
Gold Strike is still 2X odds on their table.I saw the 2x odds on the STWCraps also for the pass/come, not the don't side. The don't odds only allows 2X bet to be made, just like the pass/come side.
The company that makes this machine really does not understand the game of craps, or does not know how to program it properly,
when it come to max odds and even making place bets.
NO across, inside, outside buttons. No place bet press or option button after a win.
All the casinos I have seen on the strip have really lowered the max bets and total bets that could be made, they must have become tired of giving out many W2Gs for any $1200 payout on any one roll.
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Not at all a high roller friendly machine to play.El Cortez is just fine with $3 to $1000 limits and 10X odds on both the pass and dpass sides
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Daily $100 freeroll. I’ve always been a frugal gambler. This means that I’m always on the lookout for ways to play my favorite table games (Craps definitely tops that list) on the cheap. While I generally don’t care for electronic versions of games like blackjack and roulette, the automated machine-played version of craps adds just enough realism to keep things interesting. Bubble craps is also a great way for a new player to get comfortable with the game without the pressure of playing at a live table. Recently, bubble craps has made its way to Atlantic City, so get your dice shooting button ready.
What is Bubble Craps?
From my trips to Las Vegas in recent years, there are a variety of electronic versions of craps. All of them revolve around a central plastic dome, or “bubble,” which contain the dice that players get to shoot. It doesn’t convey the same sense of camaraderie that you’ll see at a live table, but it’s still great fun. It also has the distinct advantage of being very low minimums.
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At its core, the game runs just like a regular craps table. You’ll sit at an electronic terminal that allows for all of the same bets as its live counterpart. If you’re not sure about the win conditions of a bet, there is an information button that you can press to display the rules, odds, etc. This makes for a great educational experience if you’re trying to bring someone new into the game.
Bubble Craps in Atlantic City
Bubble craps has been around in Las Vegas for many years now. My hope is that you’d see more of a proliferation of the game in Atlantic City. Unfortunately, that hasn’t been the case yet, though casinos are always looking for new ways to bring in players, so you may see more of them as time goes on. Currently there is only one place to play bubble craps in Atlantic City: The Wild Wild West Casino.
Bubble Craps Strategy
Unlike the “Shoot to Win” Craps machines that you see in Las Vegas, the bubble craps at Wild Wild West operates a little differently. A shooting player is never designated, for example. Instead, a timer starts after each roll, and you’ll have to place your bets before the timer ends. Once the timer expires, the dice will automatically “pop” and roll, with the lucky winners collecting their payouts (hopefully).
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Have you ever tried this game in Atlantic City? Let me know in the comments section!